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		<title>Comment on Dinner Table Christmas List by Polly</title>
		<link>http://www.trinityspokane.org/2011/12/09/dinner-table-christmas-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3638</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peggy...I have tons of toiletries that I was going to drop off at Our Place but will deliver to you instead. Will also make a pile o cookies. Thanks for the great work you do. I hope this need is also included in the St Johns Chimes. I will pass the word about there in any case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peggy&#8230;I have tons of toiletries that I was going to drop off at Our Place but will deliver to you instead. Will also make a pile o cookies. Thanks for the great work you do. I hope this need is also included in the St Johns Chimes. I will pass the word about there in any case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on dinner table by OFM: The Congregations, Part 2</title>
		<link>http://www.trinityspokane.org/communion-bread/dinner-table/comment-page-1/#comment-2258</link>
		<dc:creator>OFM: The Congregations, Part 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] demonstrated by their regular donations to food banks, and active participation each month in the Holy Trinity Dinner Table, which provides a meal and companionship to about 80 people each week. “Through OFM, they are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] demonstrated by their regular donations to food banks, and active participation each month in the Holy Trinity Dinner Table, which provides a meal and companionship to about 80 people each week. “Through OFM, they are [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on ministry team by trinityspokane.org</title>
		<link>http://www.trinityspokane.org/ministry-team/comment-page-1/#comment-1961</link>
		<dc:creator>trinityspokane.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vote on HT&#8217;s partnership with LPPO. You can see the list of bishop&#8217;s committee members here.   Filled under: Uncategorized &#124; You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vote on HT&#8217;s partnership with LPPO. You can see the list of bishop&#8217;s committee members here.   Filled under: Uncategorized | You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pentecost 17 by steve kellen</title>
		<link>http://www.trinityspokane.org/2010/09/17/pentecost-17/comment-page-1/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>steve kellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amen - whispered in quiet appreciation for those who know not what they do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amen &#8211; whispered in quiet appreciation for those who know not what they do</p>
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		<title>Comment on weekly reflection pentecost 3 by Kelli</title>
		<link>http://www.trinityspokane.org/2010/06/08/weekly-reflection-pentecost-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1309</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris, 

This is beautifully written and what a powerful reminder to read, &quot;No matter how you feel in a given moment, the psalms will assure you that someone else has felt that way, too. They’ll encourage you that it’s OK, even right and beautiful, to offer our whole selves—the good, the bad, and the ugly—to God.&quot;  Simply beautiful. Your post brought comfort to my heart this evening. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris, </p>
<p>This is beautifully written and what a powerful reminder to read, &#8220;No matter how you feel in a given moment, the psalms will assure you that someone else has felt that way, too. They’ll encourage you that it’s OK, even right and beautiful, to offer our whole selves—the good, the bad, and the ugly—to God.&#8221;  Simply beautiful. Your post brought comfort to my heart this evening. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ideas for summertime sundays @ 7 (4.18) by Walter Lauzon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Lauzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth be told, i have met several from the church in the last week and a half that are saddened that there is not going to be a SUn night service, as they have to work. 

I realise and told them that the first sun of the month is our tentative date, but they seemed saddened by this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth be told, i have met several from the church in the last week and a half that are saddened that there is not going to be a SUn night service, as they have to work. </p>
<p>I realise and told them that the first sun of the month is our tentative date, but they seemed saddened by this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on June 18-20, 25-27: Preaching Workshop by Glenda Empsall</title>
		<link>http://www.trinityspokane.org/2010/03/02/june-18-20-25-27-preaching-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenda Empsall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow missed this opportunity. Please count me in for both weekends &amp; send details as they are available. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow missed this opportunity. Please count me in for both weekends &amp; send details as they are available. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on weekly reflection &#8212; lent 3 by Nadine Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadine Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 02:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great reflection, Kris.  You&#039;re right -- what gets measured *is* what gets attention, and we&#039;re *not* measuring the things that really matter.

I just pulled up a copy of the 2009 parochial report form -- ugh.  It looks like something the IRS might have developed.  Requiring people to do it during federal tax season ought to be classed as &quot;cruel &amp; unusual.&quot;

Unfortunately, we all know counting of butts and dollars won&#039;t end any time soon.  It&#039;s required by Canon I.6 and goes into calculating how much money flows from churches to dioceses to the National Church.  Besides butts and dollars, the canon does actually allow for parochial reports to include &quot;such other relevant information as is needed to secure an accurate view of the state of this Church&quot; but only &quot;as required by the approved form.&quot;  

I don&#039;t think the measures that matter will ever appear on a data- gathering form used nationwide by an ecclesial bureaucracy.  

Since the butts and dollars are the only measures we&#039;re using, they tend to grab far more than their share of our attention.  We need to supplement them with better measures we can focus on.

Maybe some forward-thinking parish could develop their own meaningful measures, use them, and share results with the wider church.  Maybe they would be prophetic.  Maybe they would inspire other churches to change how they measure.  Maybe they could spark a change through the whole system, if enough people got on board.

Starry-eyed idealism?  Undoubtedly.  But even if no one else listened, that parish would have a way to measure, tend and celebrate their growth in terms of their own unique mission -- and that would be worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reflection, Kris.  You&#8217;re right &#8212; what gets measured *is* what gets attention, and we&#8217;re *not* measuring the things that really matter.</p>
<p>I just pulled up a copy of the 2009 parochial report form &#8212; ugh.  It looks like something the IRS might have developed.  Requiring people to do it during federal tax season ought to be classed as &#8220;cruel &amp; unusual.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we all know counting of butts and dollars won&#8217;t end any time soon.  It&#8217;s required by Canon I.6 and goes into calculating how much money flows from churches to dioceses to the National Church.  Besides butts and dollars, the canon does actually allow for parochial reports to include &#8220;such other relevant information as is needed to secure an accurate view of the state of this Church&#8221; but only &#8220;as required by the approved form.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the measures that matter will ever appear on a data- gathering form used nationwide by an ecclesial bureaucracy.  </p>
<p>Since the butts and dollars are the only measures we&#8217;re using, they tend to grab far more than their share of our attention.  We need to supplement them with better measures we can focus on.</p>
<p>Maybe some forward-thinking parish could develop their own meaningful measures, use them, and share results with the wider church.  Maybe they would be prophetic.  Maybe they would inspire other churches to change how they measure.  Maybe they could spark a change through the whole system, if enough people got on board.</p>
<p>Starry-eyed idealism?  Undoubtedly.  But even if no one else listened, that parish would have a way to measure, tend and celebrate their growth in terms of their own unique mission &#8212; and that would be worth it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on join the advent conspiracy by Fr. Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.trinityspokane.org/2008/11/26/join-the-advent-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Devon,
Thanks for the note!  Yes, we included a link within the original post to the &quot;gifts for life&quot; page on the er-d site.  Great stuff!  
Thanks for your good work!
Peace,
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Devon,<br />
Thanks for the note!  Yes, we included a link within the original post to the &#8220;gifts for life&#8221; page on the er-d site.  Great stuff!<br />
Thanks for your good work!<br />
Peace,<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>Comment on Entering Lent &#8212; Finding our Treasure, Finding our Heart by Chase</title>
		<link>http://www.trinityspokane.org/2007/02/23/entering-lent-finding-our-treasure-finding-our-heart/comment-page-1/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently a year has passed since you first wrote this, but I find this especially meaningful for me, now. I am in constant competition with the world around me (although most others don&#039;t know) and it drains me quietly. 

Here is a modified version prayer I keep in my wallet on this subject:

I am so weary of using myself as the measure of everything and everyone. For this day, and from this day forward, help me to find release from the old pattern of seeing the different-from-me as either less-than or more-than me. Instead grant that I may see everything and everybody in terms of how I want you to see me at the days end, from this day and forevermore. Amen. 

What a perfect time to find words that have sat quietly on the internet for a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently a year has passed since you first wrote this, but I find this especially meaningful for me, now. I am in constant competition with the world around me (although most others don&#8217;t know) and it drains me quietly. </p>
<p>Here is a modified version prayer I keep in my wallet on this subject:</p>
<p>I am so weary of using myself as the measure of everything and everyone. For this day, and from this day forward, help me to find release from the old pattern of seeing the different-from-me as either less-than or more-than me. Instead grant that I may see everything and everybody in terms of how I want you to see me at the days end, from this day and forevermore. Amen. </p>
<p>What a perfect time to find words that have sat quietly on the internet for a year.</p>
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